<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Joe Bowser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bowserj@gmail.com">bowserj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Sean Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seansghost%2Bvhs@gmail.com" target="_blank">seansghost+vhs@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Just curious to see if this discussion on phones and carriers can be
expanded a bit.<br>
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Anyone have any other thoughts on Milestone vs Nexus One?<br>
What about other Android devices? (I've been drooling a bit over the
Samsung Galaxy S Pro specs)<br>
Is Nexus One the most open/hackable Android?<br>
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I'm thinking about this mostly from a software hackers POV. I want to
be able to write and install what I want for my device. That also makes
me wonder about carriers. I've been watching Wind Mobile get going and
like the unlimited data option, but I understand they've got a very
limited number of ports open which really blocks development and usage.
Thoughts on best carrier for a powerful Android?<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I personally use an AT&T Nexus One on Telus (aka. Passion-A). If you're looking for maximum hackability, I would recommend the Nexus One/WIND Mobile combo, </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Sorry Joe, a little confused here as in a later message you said:<br><br>> Honestly, I'd just get the Nexus One that works on RoBelUs<br><br>Are you suggesting one combo for certain uses (ie. hackability) and the other for other uses?<br>
<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>since it can run Android 2.2 bootlegs, and is the most hackable device. The Motorola Milestone has a locked down bootloader, which means that you can't really hack anything without risking a bricked device, while the Nexus One is much easier to work with. It is the most open/hackable Android that is mass produced. I'm sure you could make a Homebrew Android with the OMAP cards, but currently none with HSPA AFAIK.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've had a chance to see the Samsung Galaxy S first hand at Google IO, and I'm personally tempted to trade in my HTC EVO 4G (which is worthless up here) for a Galaxy S so that I can have a very thin, very light phone. I expect that to be locked down as well. The downside of the Galaxy S is the lack of flash on the camera, and the fact that it's Samsung, who sucks when it comes to updating their firmware (as Bell Samsung Galaxy owners can attest to). If I can't trade my EVO 4G for a Galaxy S, then I'll probably wait for the Galaxy Tablet on that one.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As far as WIND blocking ports, I thought they stopped doing this a while ago, but who knows. The main reason I would go with them is because with the stock Nexus One (the AWS version that Google calls the Passion), it's the only game in town. I'm stuck with the Passion-A, and can't run Froyo, so I have to run Cyanogen for my tethering needs.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>BTW: Link on WIND Port Blocking Issue</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/14/wind-mobile-fixes-blocked-port-issue-customers-happy-again/" target="_blank">http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/14/wind-mobile-fixes-blocked-port-issue-customers-happy-again/</a></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Yeah, according to their own customer service it's a whitelist. Also, lots of posts in the Wind Mobile forum:<br><br><a href="http://www.windmobile.ca/community/ideas/detail/21607/">http://www.windmobile.ca/community/ideas/detail/21607/</a><br>
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Sean<br>
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Joe Bowser wrote:
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<p>The Nexus One is the better choice for hackability. Having to
install a sketchy Brazillian ROM to get root isn't fun. Nor is the
process to upgrade it to 2.1 (Telus hasn't finished rolling out the
upgrade yet.)</p>
<blockquote type="cite">On May 3, 2010 11:02 PM, "Alexandre Harvey"
<<a href="mailto:alex@pixelfactor.ca" target="_blank">alex@pixelfactor.ca</a>>
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Actually, thanks for pointing out that it wont work on rogers for 3G! I
guess that means I will be going for a nexus one.<br>
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Alex<br>
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<p><font color="#500050">2010/5/3 Hubert Figuière <<a href="mailto:hub@figuiere.net" target="_blank">hub@figuiere.net</a>></font></p>
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<div>On 10-05-03 10:40 PM, Luke Closs wrote:
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>> I know everyone with 3G phones like to poop on EDGE (and I
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>> would too if I had a p...</font></p>
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<p><font color="#500050">> I was just informing the OP of the
limitations of the phone he was about to purchase.<br>
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