[Vanhackspace] Motorola Milestone, Rogers data plan?

[sean hill]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Sean Hill <seansghost+vhs at gmail.com<seansghost%2Bvhs at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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>>  Just curious to see if this discussion on phones and carriers can be
>> expanded a bit.
>>
>> Anyone have any other thoughts on Milestone vs Nexus One?
>> What about other Android devices? (I've been drooling a bit over the
>> Samsung Galaxy S Pro specs)
>> Is Nexus One the most open/hackable Android?
>>
>> I'm thinking about this mostly from a software hackers POV. I want to be
>> able to write and install what I want for my device. That also makes me
>> wonder about carriers. I've been watching Wind Mobile get going and like the
>> unlimited data option, but I understand they've got a very limited number of
>> ports open which really blocks development and usage. Thoughts on best
>> carrier for a powerful Android?
>>
>>
> I personally use an AT&T Nexus One on Telus (aka. Passion-A).  If you're
> looking for maximum hackability, I would recommend the Nexus One/WIND Mobile
> combo,
>

Sorry Joe, a little confused here as in a later message you said:

> Honestly, I'd just get the Nexus One that works on RoBelUs

Are you suggesting one combo for certain uses (ie. hackability) and the
other for other uses?

since it can run Android 2.2 bootlegs, and is the most hackable device.  The
> Motorola Milestone has a locked down bootloader, which means that you can't
> really hack anything without risking a bricked device, while the Nexus One
> is much easier to work with.  It is the most open/hackable Android that is
> mass produced.  I'm sure you could make a Homebrew Android with the OMAP
> cards, but currently none with HSPA AFAIK.
>
> I've had a chance to see the Samsung Galaxy S first hand at Google IO, and
> I'm personally tempted to trade in my HTC EVO 4G (which is worthless up
> here) for a Galaxy S so that I can  have a very thin, very light phone.  I
> expect that to be locked down as well.  The downside of the Galaxy S is the
> lack of flash on the camera, and the fact that it's Samsung, who sucks when
> it comes to updating their firmware (as Bell Samsung Galaxy owners can
> attest to).  If I can't trade my EVO 4G for a Galaxy S, then I'll probably
> wait for the Galaxy Tablet on that one.
>
> As far as WIND blocking ports, I thought they stopped doing this a while
> ago, but who knows.  The main reason I would go with them is because with
> the stock Nexus One (the AWS version that Google calls the Passion), it's
> the only game in town.  I'm stuck with the Passion-A, and can't run Froyo,
> so I have to run Cyanogen for my tethering needs.
>

I thought the 2 models were identical except for the operating band.


>
> BTW: Link on WIND Port Blocking Issue
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> http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/01/14/wind-mobile-fixes-blocked-port-issue-customers-happy-again/
>

Yeah, according to their own customer service it's a whitelist. Also, lots
of posts in the Wind Mobile forum:

http://www.windmobile.ca/community/ideas/detail/21607/


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> Sean
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>>
>> Joe Bowser wrote:
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>> The Nexus One is the better choice for hackability.  Having to install a
>> sketchy Brazillian ROM to get root isn't fun.  Nor is the process to upgrade
>> it to 2.1 (Telus hasn't finished rolling out the upgrade yet.)
>>
>> On May 3, 2010 11:02 PM, "Alexandre Harvey" <alex at pixelfactor.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, thanks for pointing out that it wont work on rogers for 3G! I
>> guess that means I will be going for a nexus one.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>  2010/5/3 Hubert Figuière <hub at figuiere.net>
>>
>>> On 10-05-03 10:40 PM, Luke Closs wrote:
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>>> >>
>>> >> I know everyone with 3G phones like to poop on EDGE (and I probably
>>> >> would too if I had a p...
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>>> > I was just informing the OP of the limitations of the phone he was
>>> about to purchase.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hub
>>> > ...
>>>
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