[Vanhackspace] "Vancouver needs a world-class hacker lab"

[Joe Bowser]

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Ryan Smith <bigryeguy at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was at the space the night he dropped in. I think calling him an ass
> and douchbag is not fair. He seemed like a nice guy, although I'll let
> pretensious slide.
>

It's clear that it's my personal opinion, and not that of VHS at this point,
but yeah, perhaps calling him a douchebag wasn't very professional, and I
apologize to the list for not acting in a professional manner.


> I think I can sum up the difference between his goal and ours. VHS is
> about the people and community of hackers in Vancouver and the world.
> We can exist as a group without a physical space or infrastructure. If
> a fire burned down 45w there would still be a VHS. We are also a flat
> and open group. Although I question how open we are when people use
> our open list to slag people they've never met.
>

Fair enough.  Even though I really dislike this guy based on what I've seen
so far, I'll keep it off the list in the future.  VHS is an open space, it
doesn't mean that every member has to get along with anyone who shows
interest, we just have to work together to keep the space awesome.


> His vision is about a physical space which sounds like a for profit
> physical space similar to Workspace but with tools. Although we share
> some similar goals and vocabulary I think our ideals set us apart as
> something distinct and special.
>

Agreed.

Joe
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