[Vanhackspace] chance for VHS to do a good community hacking deed

Wed Aug 26 11:54:39 PDT 2009

Anything you do that disrupts the cellular system would be it illegal. Keep
in mind that even if you did find away legal loop hole, if you prevent a 911
call from going out, it is the USA, you would get sued so fast, and so hard
your head would spin, and they would own your soul. The wall of shame, maybe
the best semi legal approach to solve the problem.

Just have a mass of monitors that display all the incoming and outgoing
calls as they happen.

*I'm not a lawyer (but I have been known to be a liar) and know nothing
about laws, so use the above advice at your own risk*

Alex

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Joe Bowser <joe.bowser at nitobi.com> wrote:

> I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that I can currently get
> EDGE coverage at Wreck Beach.  I know it's not the same, I'm just putting
> this info out there.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Mark Eijsermans <
> mark_eijsermans at warpmail.net> wrote:
>
>> what about the idea of not jamming, but anonymously ringing peoples phones
>> en masse with false connections. what's the legality of this?
>>
>> i have a picture in my head of everyones phone in the city ringing at the
>> same time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23-Aug-09, at 4:43 PM, dan anderson wrote:
>>
>>  Burning Man is about to get cell phone service. If this succeeds, this
>>> would be the end of any good that could come from the event. VHS would
>>> be instant heroes to the Burning Man community if anyone knows of a
>>> legal way to prevent cell phone use from happening. Jammers are
>>> illegal down there, unfortunately. Is it possible to block the signal
>>> with a physical wall? A farraday cage is kind of infeasible. Would it
>>> be legal and feasible to draw (and pay for) enough energy out of the
>>> grid to disable the station? If anyone has an idea of how to do this,
>>> the BM list below and many others would be interested in hearing it,
>>> and they'd definitely find enough people to take it and run with it.
>>> Posting anonymously is fine too, they don't mind a bit.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: mike begley <spam at hell.org>
>>> Date: 2009/8/22
>>> Subject: [burningman-bcwa] Uh oh...
>>> To: burningman-bcwa at yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Apparently there's cell service on the Playa.
>>>
>>> http://blog.burningman.com/?p=4916#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_cam
>>> paign=is-it-hot-enough-for-ya
>>>
>>> So another big topic at the morning meeting, besides the
>>> heat, was the cellphone situation.
>>>
>>> What you might have heard by now is actually true. There
>>> IS cellphone service on the playa. It's not just in Gerlach.
>>> It's also available out in the desert, at least some of the
>>> time.
>>>
>>> We were talking to Camera Girl, and she said a private
>>> outfit leased some land out near the Frog Pond and has
>>> installed a tower that is providing service to the
>>> playa. It has nothing to do with Burning Man. The Burning
>>> Man people are not behind it.
>>>
>>> There were a lot of boos and hisses when Logan said he heard
>>> his phone making the familiar sound that he had a text
>>> message. "I looked down, and I had four bars!" he said.
>>> Someone in the crowd shouted, "I had five!" Someone else
>>> shouted, "Call me later!"
>>>
>>> But it's an interesting development, obviously. ... You are no
>>> longer officially "out of reach" when you come to Burning Man.
>>> You can't tell the office, or your significant others, "Hey,
>>> sorry, you won't be able to get a hold of me."
>>>
>>> Of course, you have to remember that no one comes to Burning
>>> Man for "a solitary experience," as E put it. I mean, if you
>>> want to get away from it all and be out of reach, this is not
>>> the place. This is a very social setting.
>>>
>>> But still, cellphones will change everything. (There's a lot
>>> of thought that after the first couple of hours after the
>>> gates open, the service will be overwhelmed and no one will
>>> be able to use the phones anyway, so it may be much ado about
>>> not much.)
>>>
>>> I thought Camera Girl had a pretty good common-sense take on
>>> the whole thing when she said, "My phone has an off button,
>>> and I know how to use it."
>>>
>>> And I thought Blondie, from the Center Camp crew, had a good
>>> point too when he said that if you're always able to be in
>>> touch with your group out here, if you never get lost and find
>>> yourself wandering around all alone, you'll never have some of
>>> the unbelievably random but happy coincidences that happen
>>> when you're forced to be off by yourself.
>>>
>>> And I do think it'll be weird if there are people walking
>>> around yakking on the phone. And I do NOT want to read Twitters
>>> or Tweets or Facebooks or anything else about what happens out
>>> here. I would not look on that as a good development at all.
>>> Annoying in the extreme for those people here and for the
>>> people back at home, IMHO.
>>>
>>> Oi. Time to start building portable cell phone jammers.
>>>
>>> -mike
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