[Vanhackspace] hacker dojo

[Joe Bowser]

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Austin wrote:
> I kinda appreciate how the members at hacker dojo are paying $100.. also
> I appreciate that there are people going all in(donating $500 a month) 
> they may be loaded or it could be a different class that they are
> accommodating but I believe strong dedication to the idea of vancouver
> hackspace  will be what gets it off the ground.  It seems that rent
> prices are about the same in our area as they are in sanfran .. if we
> want to survive we will have to be pulling in $2-3000, if this means
> that a few people have to make a high investment during the startup in
> exchange for some type of directive power...  I can accept this.  As any
> directors that vhs has should be following our constitution.. and our
> mission...  should we worry about there awesome powers...? of course as
> is everything, it shall be abused!  2cents
> 

I agree with that for sure.  I think what I put forward is the goal, and
not how to get there.  The Hacker Dojo document seemed to indicate that
the $100 was there to make decisions on the space.  I'm fine with that.
 The Directors thing is tricky because that actually means something
when you put that into bylaws and send it into Victoria.  We can have
"founders", "coordinators", "l33t hax0r" or whatever, and they can get
priority on booking the space, but other than that, I don't think they
should have more say than the regular members.

If I threw in $3000 per month, and ran the space myself, would it be a
hackerspace or would it just be my workshop that I let people do shit
in?  The thing is that it's community, and in this case paying members,
and people who do classes and events that get us from point a to b,
which is why I'm not down with putting this sort of thing into stone
(and apparently neither is the Dojo, I think there's been an edit since
this morning).

It's a tough balance, but I agree we need people to throw down money.  I
just don't want it to turn super weird for the people who have the money
to throw down and the people who don't.  The money thing can get weird
fast and that can cause people to not necessarily feel like showing up,
which is bad when you're trying to grow a base of support.

Finally, it's good to diversify our revenue streams early on, that way
we're not fucked if a single source (i.e. Supporting Members) drops off,
which could happen in this economy.  I don't know exactly how to do
that, but kit sales, parties, and getting the fridge up and going once
we get the space is a good start.

Joe
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